Anne Dranitsaris, Ph.D and Heather Dranitsaris-Hilliard are a mother-daughter team with an incredible backstory and a refreshing approach to leadership that blends psychology with systems to advance the potential of individuals, teams and organisations. Together they have co-authored three books, most recently So, You Think You Can Lead?

In this episode they share the bad habits even good leaders can fall into, shine a light on  a fundamental leadership principle for the hybrid world, remind us that leaders cannot, and should not, be all things to all people and, perhaps most importantly, there’s no leadership without followership.